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Ang Sabi Ng Taong Pinadala Ng Diyos Sa Impyerno
posted by (Jul 12, 2012 @ 3:24PM) views: 1352
Another installment of My Forbidden Essay: Where is God?!

CAUTION: DO NOT READ THIS IF YOUR FAITH IN GOD IS WEAK.

Ang Sabi Ng Taong Pinadala Ng Diyos Sa Impyerno
by Hel Zulueta

"Dahil sa kapalpakan mo,
dahil sa hindi mo ako ginawang perpekto,
dahil sa hindi mo ginawang perpekto ang aking mundo,
ako ngayon ang sisisihin mo
at papahirapan mo nang husto..
Bakit hinihiling ko ba sa'yo
na likhain mo ako,
Kinunsulta mo ba muna ako
kung gusto kong mabuhay
at kung anong klaseng buhay ba
ang gusto kong magkaroon
sa mundong ito
bago mo ako binuhay..
Nagkaganito lang ako dahil sayo,
Dahil ganito mo ako ginawa.."

REMINDER: Para sa mga makasalanan at masasama
at para narin sa mga gustong magkaroon ng
"Absolute (Lubos/Ganap/Talagang/Totoong) Free Will",
ITO ang DAPAT nyong sabihin kay God..
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lyeandro    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 3:36 PM
 
It's not really about love and intimacy but who is rightful enough to tell God, Himself, that what He did is wrong?

Are you of equal footing with Him to actually judge His decision?

What's the purpose of this? Is this an allegory? Or some piece of phrases telling the world that yes, you can whine about your lousy existence?

Im not flaming. I am badly confused.
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:38PM
Or pieces of phrases*

Why is it forbidden? Forbidden by whom? Why tell it if its forbidden then?

Clear my thoughts. I don't get any of this at all.
  abcd14    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:49PM
this is not hard to understand to say that it is correct.
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:52PM
I find it very illogical and out of purpose. Absolute (Lubos/Ganap/Talagang/Totoong) Free Will? So you think you are controlled right now? By who?

Blame the Creator when things get out of whack? It's not difficult but it's very confusing.
  abcd14    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:58PM
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:06PM
i don't need smilies. I need arguments. Sound arguments.

Baka nga may problem ka lang. dami mo pang arte e.
makopa    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 3:41 PM
 
daming pwedeng pag-usapan dito ah... free will... what is hell and does it really exist... our concept of who/what God is... etc etc

looking forward to the discussion, this might be one hot topic
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:48PM
Nope.Because the author's statements are contradicting and illogical.

Because there can be no 2 masters at the same time. If God created you, then He's the master and you're not.

What right do you have to argue about How you should be made? Unless you want to be a God too right? Something of equal footing with Him for you to be heard and compromised with.

So case in point, you don't question masters. You obey them. No matter how dreadful things can be.
  abcd14    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:52PM
you have the right to complain
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:54PM
Right to complain? So blame the heavens for the bad life you are having?

Nah. Don't make scapegoats through this. More actions, less blabber author.
  abcd14    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:57PM
do you think it is ok for a creator to make the the creature that he created suffer endlessly just because it did not follow his instructions.
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:01PM
What instructions? Im not talking of any. Or if there are any you are aware of? Why fall off these instructions in the first place?

Simple as it is. You didnt follow instructions. And yet you blabber about the consequences? So ano dapat? You should be given crown and gold for something you did not actually follow?

My point is that, blaming wont get you far kiddo. And even blaspheming over someone who made you decided on your own whether to follow Him or not is something you need to reflect on.
  Mhelaisky    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:03PM
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:04PM
decide*
  Mhelaisky    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:59PM
YOU DONT HAVE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN

AT WAG NYONG SISIHIN ANG DIYOS SA MGA KAPALPAKAN NYO
  abcd14    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:01PM
do you think it is ok for a creator to make the the creature that he created suffer endlessly just because it did not follow his instructions.
  Mhelaisky    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:06PM
kainaman na
ice102    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 3:44 PM
 
a false prophet....






an crew.
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:49PM
Nah. Just convoluted way of looking at freedom.
  ice102    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:55PM
exactly...freedom which he, himself is enjoying right now.
  abcd14    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:55PM
do you think it is ok for a creator to make the the creature that he created suffer endlessly just because it did not follow his instructions.
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:03PM
Unli? Pointless sir. Useless blabbers.
  Mhelaisky    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:05PM
unli nga
  ice102    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:03PM
are you kinda frustrated with your status in life right now? or are you into some kind of medication?
  lyeandro    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:04PM
Or just that. I agree.
whing2    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 3:52 PM
 
*sigh
whing2    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 3:57 PM
 
kapalpakan ng tao yan, sya ang pumili ng buhay na tatahakin nya, dapat sisihin yung sarili hindi ang diyos
  abcd14    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:59PM
do you think it is ok for a creator to make the the creature that he created suffer endlessly just because it did not follow his instructions.
  abcd14    •reply    Jul-12-12@3:59PM
do you think it is ok for a creator to make the the creature that he created suffer endlessly just because it did not follow his instructions.
  whing2    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:11PM
yun nga eh, doon yun binabase kung gaano ka katatag ,kung gaano kahigpit yung pananampalataya mo sa kanya, kung kulang nga yung pananalig mo sa kanya , mahahalintulad kalang sa tao sa post mo
lyeandro    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 3:58 PM
 
This might seem intriguing for others or might look like im really just making a scene but this post is nothing but convoluted way of looking at freedom.

You guys might say, then don't read it if you hate it cliche stuff but this might serve as a thing to consider for those who are unaware of the irony this one brings.

So freedom and free-will made me speak out for myself but if this one is to be on the best read's list? Nice pun indeed.
lyeandro    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 4:07 PM
 
It would be a lot better if you could have just posted your problem. Then we can pretty much talk in peace rather than complain about your existence.

Ice is correct.
lyeandro    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 4:08 PM
 
Wala na? alis na ko sir. Next time, be careful on what you are posting.

we're here to help. But be sure to post something more convincing. Hope you can sort your life out. Good day!
whing2    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 4:10 PM
 
yun nga eh, doon yun binabase kung gaano ka katatag ,kung gaano kahigpit yung pananampalataya mo sa kanya, kung kulang nga yung pananalig mo sa kanya , mahahalintulad kalang sa tao sa post mo
ice102    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 4:11 PM
 
You are asking where is God?! The mere fact that you still breath, i can say God already exist! The moment you are still given the chance to open up your eyes the next morning you wake up, God is already there! Though not physically present but the way you see yourself still alive God does really exist at all.
  Mhelaisky    •reply    Jul-12-12@4:15PM
tumpak
abcd14    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 4:11 PM
 
tacki    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 4:39 PM
 
Troll topic detected...


Sorry, not falling for this crap...

chinchana    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 5:02 PM
 
KUNG ATHEIST KA... WAG MO KAMING IDAMAY...
aidle    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 5:52 PM
 
Mr_Manok    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 6:09 PM
 
isipin mo na lang kung perfect ang buhay



walang thrill
  Mr_Manok    •reply    Jul-12-12@6:10PM
at boring para san pa na nabuhay ka sa earth
butterfly20    •reply Jul 12, 2012 @ 8:37 PM
 
Una, lahat nman tayo makasalanan. Walang perpekto. Pangalawa, lahat tayo may free will. Pero wag mo kami diktahan kung ano ang DAPAT sabihin kay God. Lahat ng nangyayari sa buhay mo, choices mo yan. kasi binigyan ka ng free will. Me pa caution caution at reminder ka pa. Ewan ko sayo
totsbawasanta    •reply Jul 13, 2012 @ 9:54 AM
 
Dear Author,


If you're in hell we should get together sometime this month, call me may be?


I've been in this place for a thousand years and it's getting pretty boring ;yawn;


I know how it feels to be a newbie. Your predicament I think is, hmmm you've been bitten by the nasty culture shock, it's quite depressing right? being in a place where everything looks so new/weird, and you're definitely out of place.


So to alleviate the pain of newness...you are cordially invited for a chit-chat
  whing2    •reply    Jul-13-12@10:32AM
22bentedos    •reply Jul 13, 2012 @ 7:22 PM
 
coly_12    •reply Jul 13, 2012 @ 9:25 PM
 
dumudugo ang ilong ko mgbsa rito...

hahahaha


ngaun lng ulit nkapagadik...



hirayamanawari    •reply Jul 15, 2012 @ 10:49 PM
 
Free Will
Free will is the freedom of self-determination and action independent of external causes. It is the ability to make choices. A choice is free if it is consistent with a person's desires and nature. Free will is of two main types: compatibilistic and libertarian.

Compatibilism is the position that man's free will is restricted by his sinful nature, and as a result he can choose only what his sinful nature will allow him to choose, which means he will not choose God of his own free will because he is enslaved to sin. It also states that a person is only as free as his nature permits him to be free, and that his sinfulness prevents him from feely choosing God (1 Cor. 2:14; Rom. 3:10-12; Rom. 6:14-20).

Libertarian free will is the position that man's free will is not restricted by his sinful nature, in that he is not enslaved by sin so that he only chooses sinful things, and that he can freely choose to accept or reject God despite his enslavement to sin. It also states that an unsaved sinner is still able to freely choose God in spite of his sinful nature (John 3:16; 3:36).

Free will does not exist in strict materialism where the brain chemistry dictates outcome and free will is an illusion.

Why God make you???
check this link
http://carm.org/christianity/sermons/1-corinthians-19-why-did-god-make-you
souldagger24    •reply Aug 1, 2012 @ 9:11 AM
 
why would i blame god?






grabe talaga epekto ng drugs
paparye    •reply Aug 31, 2012 @ 3:09 AM
 
Paps,, sana napanood mo ung pepito manaloto.
andun lahat ang sagot sa tanong mo.

kung talagang ikaw ay mapagmasid, magaleng at matalino!
paparye    •reply Aug 31, 2012 @ 3:22 AM
 
PAHABOL:

nauunawaan ko ang feelings mo!
lahat ng tao ay dumating sa punto na yan! ayaw lang nila aminin dahil nagmamalinis sila.

pero kapag naliwanagan kana sa mga nangyayari sa buhay mo, babawiin mo ang sinabi mo at hihingi ka ng tawad sa kanya!

FOR ME: tama si Lyeandro! wala isa man sa atin ang may karapatan hadlangan ang kalooban nya dahil tayo ay tao lamang. hindi tyo tulad ng Diyos na makapangyarihan sa lahat, malinis at banal. MERON TAYONG KANYA-KANYANG LANDAS NA DAPAT TAHAKIN ALINSUNOD SA KANYANG KALOOBAN.

PERO DI AKO NANINIWALANG TAO ANG GUMAGAWA NG KAPALARAN NYA.
SAPAGKAT MAY MGA TAONG MALINIS ANG KALOOBAN SUBALIT NAKARATAY SA BANIG NG KARAMDAMAN NA HALOS IKAMATAY NYA. ANG TANONG GINUSTO BA NYA? MAY MGA TAONG TUMAMA SA LOTTO.. NAKITA NYA BA ANG WINNING NUMBER?

BAWAT PANGYAYARE SA MUNDONG ITO AY MAY KANYA KANYANG DAHILAN. AT DIYOS ANG GUMAGAWA NG DAAN PARA SAYO.
paparye    •reply Aug 31, 2012 @ 3:24 AM
 
NAKASAAD SA BANAL NA KASULATAN.

-hindi ka pa man isinisilang sa mundong ito, nakasulat na sa libro ng buhay ang mga taong karapat-dapat na tumira kasama nya doon sa kalangitan.
  paparye    •reply    Aug-31-12@3:38AM
at DESTINY ang tawag dyan. wala ka magagawa kung sa edad na pito walo o kahit anupaman ay ikaw ay agad binawian ng buhay.
meron nga fetus pa lamang pinatay na at sila ngayun ang mga mumunting kerubin sa harap ng pinakamataas sa lahat.
DEMO    •reply Sep 10, 2012 @ 12:18 PM
 
that's bullshit!

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